Discussion:
CDimages go 2 NET INSTALLERS
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Steve McIntyre
2022-11-01 01:50:01 UTC
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You don't mention exactly which page(s) you're looking at, which makes
it difficult to identify if you've actually found a problem here. :-(
It's clear to me that you all do NOT check your own links on your website. 
I'm trying to download a CD image, but wouldn't you know it, ALL TEN LINKS to
the different archs go to the "Net instal" which only has three image files. 
The netinstall image *is* a CD image. For example, from

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/ :

What is a netinst image?

The netinst CD here is a small CD image that contains just the core
Debian installer code and a small core set of text-mode programs
(known as "standard" in Debian). To install a desktop or other
common software, you'll also need either an Internet connection or
some other Debian CD/DVD images.
Do you even link bro?
Can you translate that to English please?
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Andrew M.A. Cater
2022-11-01 08:50:01 UTC
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Hello,
It's clear to me that you all do NOT check your own links on your website. 
I'm trying to download a CD image, but wouldn't you know it, ALL TEN LINKS
to the different archs go to the "Net instal" which only has three image
files.  Do you even link bro?
This is so basic it's just laughable, and really frustrating so something so
BASIC.  How hard is it to link to the correct images?  So now, I can't even
download a 700MB CD image today, and have to wait on you all to fix this.  I
want the CD image, and I want to be able to have the torrent link.  Sure the
"server" link works, but I'm not ever going to use that when I can use the
torrent.  It's less to download than a 2.5 GB ("CD") image, which you'll
notice if you were to check all your links.
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso - is a CD image without firmware. Note the path - iso-cd indicates it
is a CD sized image.

Here's the corresponding image with included non-free firmware which you may
need for WiFi.

First image is directly available on the web as the first link. Second is noted
from the bottom of that download link. As it happens, for the next major
release of Debian, we're likely to release an image containing firmware
by default.

Torrent link is here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/bt-cd/firmware-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso.torrent

That's directly from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/ - which is the directory above.

"Debian firmware torrent" into your favourite search engine will find you
the first three links. One to a live CD including firmware, one to how to
download Debian CD images and the third to the link I've given above.

Do you Google, bro?

With every good wish, as ever,
Please, test your links BEFORE you publish them to your website.
Thanks,
Annoyed Linux user without working wireless drivers, and no I'm not going to
run an Ethernet cable just to make it work.  So don't give the a net install
for a CD IMAGE LINK.
Andy Cater
Andrew M.A. Cater
2022-11-01 09:00:01 UTC
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Post by Andrew M.A. Cater
Hello,
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso - is a CD image without firmware. Note the path - iso-cd indicates it
is a CD sized image.
Here's the corresponding image with included non-free firmware which you may
need for WiFi.
Firmware link now inserted here to the netinst CD

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso

And corresponding DVD if you don't want to connect to the 'Net to download
from the netinst.

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/firmware-11.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
Post by Andrew M.A. Cater
Torrent link is here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/bt-cd/firmware-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso.torrent
With every good wish, as ever,
Please, test your links BEFORE you publish them to your website.
Thanks,
Annoyed Linux user without working wireless drivers, and no I'm not going to
run an Ethernet cable just to make it work.  So don't give the a net install
for a CD IMAGE LINK.
Andy Cater
J.A. Bezemer
2022-11-01 09:30:01 UTC
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2022, Steve McIntyre wrote:

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Post by Steve McIntyre
The netinstall image *is* a CD image. For example, from
What is a netinst image?
The netinst CD here is a small CD image that contains just the core
Debian installer code and a small core set of text-mode programs
(known as "standard" in Debian). To install a desktop or other
common software, you'll also need either an Internet connection or
some other Debian CD/DVD images.
The "other *CD* images" is incorrect since we do not produce other CD
images any more. The /CD/http-ftp/ states: "it's possible to use CD images
(700 MB each)" which is equally incorrect. This may have caused OP's
misunderstanding.

Regards,
Anne
Steve McIntyre
2022-11-01 19:00:01 UTC
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[..]
Post by Steve McIntyre
The netinstall image *is* a CD image. For example, from
What is a netinst image?
The netinst CD here is a small CD image that contains just the core
Debian installer code and a small core set of text-mode programs
(known as "standard" in Debian). To install a desktop or other
common software, you'll also need either an Internet connection or
some other Debian CD/DVD images.
The "other *CD* images" is incorrect since we do not produce other CD images
any more. The /CD/http-ftp/ states: "it's possible to use CD images (700 MB
each)" which is equally incorrect. This may have caused OP's
misunderstanding.
*Possibly*, yeah. Let's fix that now...
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