Discussion:
buster EOL (10.13) and 11.5 planning
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Adam D. Barratt
2022-07-28 16:20:01 UTC
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Hi,

Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few
days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at
least a couple of weeks to get things sorted, so as some suggestions:

- August 20
- [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
- September 3rd
- September 10th

We're currently only 3 weeks past the 11.4 bullseye point release, but
that was also about 6 weeks late. It's therefore worth considering
whether we want to try and get 11.5 out sooner and get back onto the
previous track, or delay it a little more and aim for every two months
from 11.4's release date.

tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
do them at the same time or separately.

Thanks,

Adam
Cyril Brulebois
2022-07-28 16:30:01 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Adam D. Barratt
Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few
days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at
- August 20
- [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
- September 3rd
- September 10th
We're currently only 3 weeks past the 11.4 bullseye point release, but
that was also about 6 weeks late. It's therefore worth considering
whether we want to try and get 11.5 out sooner and get back onto the
previous track, or delay it a little more and aim for every two months
from 11.4's release date.
tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
do them at the same time or separately.
Leaving aside the debootstrap's pu/opu requests that I would be happy
not to have to be involved with (trusting Luca's assessment instead),
I'm happy to try and accommodate any dates that might be picked up for
10.13 and 11.5, for all other installer-related tasks.


Cheers,
--
Cyril Brulebois (***@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/>
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
Luna Jernberg
2022-07-28 16:40:02 UTC
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All dates works for me
Post by Adam D. Barratt
Hi,
Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few
days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at
- August 20
- [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
- September 3rd
- September 10th
We're currently only 3 weeks past the 11.4 bullseye point release, but
that was also about 6 weeks late. It's therefore worth considering
whether we want to try and get 11.5 out sooner and get back onto the
previous track, or delay it a little more and aim for every two months
from 11.4's release date.
tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
do them at the same time or separately.
Thanks,
Adam
Steve McIntyre
2022-07-28 22:50:01 UTC
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Hey Adam!
Post by Adam D. Barratt
Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few
days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at
- August 20
- [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
- September 3rd
- September 10th
August 20th or September 10th work best for me, with a slight
preference for the latter so we have as much time as possible for shim
signing in the two releases. I can do September 3rd at a push, but
it will be difficult for me to commit to a double release that weekend
as I have plans on Sunday 4th.
Post by Adam D. Barratt
We're currently only 3 weeks past the 11.4 bullseye point release, but
that was also about 6 weeks late. It's therefore worth considering
whether we want to try and get 11.5 out sooner and get back onto the
previous track, or delay it a little more and aim for every two months
from 11.4's release date.
tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
do them at the same time or separately.
Happy to do a double release on 20/08 or 10/09, or a single release or
03/09.
--
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. ***@einval.com
“Why do people find DNS so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and
naming things.”
-– Jeff Waugh (https://twitter.com/jdub)
Ansgar
2022-08-07 18:10:01 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Adam D. Barratt
- August 20
- [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
- September 3rd
- September 10th
All dates should still work for me.
Post by Adam D. Barratt
any opinions on whether we should do them at the same time or
separately.
Either is fine with me.

Ansgar
RattusRattus
2022-08-07 18:30:01 UTC
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Post by Ansgar
Hi,
Post by Adam D. Barratt
- August 20
- [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
- September 3rd
- September 10th
All dates should still work for me.
Post by Adam D. Barratt
any opinions on whether we should do them at the same time or
separately.
Either is fine with me.
Ansgar
Both September dates work for both Isy and myself... Sorry I will be in
Nottingham with family on the 20th Aug (and BBQ on 27th)

/Andy
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/RattusRattus
Debian is not always the answer, however it is surprising how many times
it is...
Luna Jernberg
2022-09-10 11:30:01 UTC
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I am helping out atm :)
Post by Ansgar
Hi,
Post by Adam D. Barratt
- August 20
- [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
- September 3rd
- September 10th
All dates should still work for me.
Post by Adam D. Barratt
any opinions on whether we should do them at the same time or
separately.
Either is fine with me.
Ansgar
Adam D. Barratt
2022-08-12 20:20:01 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Adam D. Barratt
Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few
days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at
- August 20
- [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
- September 3rd
- September 10th
[...]
Post by Adam D. Barratt
tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
do them at the same time or separately.
Thanks for the replies.

We're not ready to freeze this weekend, so I'm planning on going for
September 10th for both 10.13 and 11.5.

I'll likely freeze 10.13 around the weekend of the 27th / early the
following week to give us a little more time than the usual week to
make sure we've got everything sorted.

Regards,

Adam
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