11.1 and 10.11 planning

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi Adam,

We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of the
bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.
Traditionally, we've combined stable and oldstable point releases (at
2- and 4-month cadences) while both are supported. That would still be
my preference, but I understand that not everyone on the Images side
is so keen on the idea. Open questions in addition to dates are
therefore whether we should do 10.11 and 11.1 on the same day and, if
not, how close together they should be.
September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
make sure everything's ready, etc.
October 2nd - OK for me
October 9th - OK for me
October 16th - OK for me

Regarding d-i preps, I should be able to accomodate anything that gets
picked up.


Cheers,

[Steve McIntyre]

Hi,
We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of the
bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.
Traditionally, we've combined stable and oldstable point releases (at
2- and 4-month cadences) while both are supported. That would still be
my preference, but I understand that not everyone on the Images side is
so keen on the idea. Open questions in addition to dates are therefore
whether we should do 10.11 and 11.1 on the same day and, if not, how
close together they should be.
September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
make sure everything's ready, etc.
October 2nd - OK for me
October 9th - OK for me
October 16th - OK for me

At this point I'm free for all of those weekends.

[Andy Simpkins]

Post by Cyril Brulebois
Hi Adam,

We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of the
bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.
Traditionally, we've combined stable and oldstable point releases (at
2- and 4-month cadences) while both are supported. That would still be
my preference, but I understand that not everyone on the Images side
is so keen on the idea. Open questions in addition to dates are
therefore whether we should do 10.11 and 11.1 on the same day and, if
not, how close together they should be.
September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
make sure everything's ready, etc.
October 2nd - OK for me
October 9th - OK for me
October 16th - OK for me

Regarding d-i preps, I should be able to accomodate anything that gets
picked up.
Cheers,

I can do all of the above dates except the 2nd October (wedding anniversary)

Whilst it is normal to run a point release on old stable at the same
time as stable it does mean that we don't give the images in the old
stable point release as much testing as perhaps they should because we
are all 'too tired' by the time that we get round to them. that said
that is what the Sunday is for...

/Andy

[Laura Arjona Reina]

Sorry for the delay

Post by Cyril Brulebois
Hi Adam,

We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of the
bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.
Traditionally, we've combined stable and oldstable point releases (at
2- and 4-month cadences) while both are supported. That would still be
my preference, but I understand that not everyone on the Images side
is so keen on the idea. Open questions in addition to dates are
therefore whether we should do 10.11 and 11.1 on the same day and, if
not, how close together they should be.
September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
make sure everything's ready, etc.
October 2nd - OK for me
October 9th - OK for me
October 16th - OK for me

Regarding d-i preps, I should be able to accomodate anything that gets
picked up.

Same for publicity/website, we can do on any date and we have no particular preference on 10+11 together or in separate weekends.

Kind regards

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

Thanks for the responses everyone. Mark indicated on IRC that he'd be
happy to be ftpmaster-du-jour on any of the dates.

We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of
the bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.

[...]

September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
make sure everything's ready, etc.
October 2nd - OK for me

The conclusion seems to be that if we want to have all of the Images

October 9th - OK for me
October 16th - OK for me

Images Team, what was the conclusion in terms of timing for the two
point releases? Are you happy for the archive side for both to happen
on the same day, with image testing for buster possibly being delayed,
or would you prefer to try and separate the whole process? (In which
case we would need all teams available for multiple dates.)

Regards,

Adam

[Steve McIntyre]

Post by Adam D. Barratt
Hi,
Thanks for the responses everyone. Mark indicated on IRC that he'd be
happy to be ftpmaster-du-jour on any of the dates.

We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of
the bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.

[...]

September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
make sure everything's ready, etc.
October 2nd - OK for me

The conclusion seems to be that if we want to have all of the Images

October 9th - OK for me
October 16th - OK for me

Images Team, what was the conclusion in terms of timing for the two
point releases? Are you happy for the archive side for both to happen
on the same day, with image testing for buster possibly being delayed,
or would you prefer to try and separate the whole process? (In which
case we would need all teams available for multiple dates.)

I'm happy either way, I think Andy was less sure in the case that we
got him to do both? :-)

[Andy Simpkins]

Post by Steve McIntyre

Post by Adam D. Barratt
Hi,
Thanks for the responses everyone. Mark indicated on IRC that he'd be
happy to be ftpmaster-du-jour on any of the dates.

We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of
the bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.

[...]

September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
make sure everything's ready, etc.
October 2nd - OK for me

The conclusion seems to be that if we want to have all of the Images

October 9th - OK for me
October 16th - OK for me

Images Team, what was the conclusion in terms of timing for the two
point releases? Are you happy for the archive side for both to happen
on the same day, with image testing for buster possibly being delayed,
or would you prefer to try and separate the whole process? (In which
case we would need all teams available for multiple dates.)

I'm happy either way, I think Andy was less sure in the case that we
got him to do both? :-)

given that Steve will be around I am happy for both in one day :-)

/Andy

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

Post by Andy Simpkins
given that Steve will be around I am happy for both in one day :-)

If that was meant as a reply to everyone rather than an internal
confirmation on debian-cd@, maybe send the same mail via reply-all? :)


Cheers,