11.7 planning

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

Hi,

We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

Thanks,

[Cyril Brulebois]

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

I should be able to accommodate any dates for the installer side.


Cheers,

[Adam D. Barratt]

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update
included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the
keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

A quick reply in the interests of expediency:

1st - could work, but could be a bit tight as things stand
8th - Easter weekend, so possible people are away / busy. Could work
for me although I have slightly selfish personal reasons for it not
being my favourite. :-)
15th - fine
22nd - doesn't work for me
29th - fine

Regards,

Adam

[Andy]

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
Hi,
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.
Thanks,

I can do 15th, 22nd or 29th
Isy is only available from the 29th (mocks)

Best wishes
/Andy

[Donald Norwood]

29th is workable.

Post by Andy

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
Hi,
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.
Thanks,

I can do 15th, 22nd or 29th
Isy is only available from the 29th (mocks)
Best wishes
/Andy

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[Laura Arjona Reina]

Hello

Post by Donald Norwood
29th is workable.

I can the 15th and 22nd of April.
For now I cannot say anything about my availability for May (bookworm release).

Kind regards

Post by Donald Norwood

Post by Andy

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
Hi,
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.
Thanks,

I can do 15th, 22nd or 29th
Isy is only available from the 29th (mocks)
Best wishes
/Andy

[Luna Jernberg]

If you want my help with testing i can do the later April dates 15th,
22nd and 29th

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
Hi,
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.
Thanks,
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[Paul Gevers]

Dear all,

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

I know some people will call me crazy, but can and should we combine
this with finding a release date for bookworm?

From where I'm looking, bookworm is looking pretty good. Obviously
we'll have to follow through on the flurry of unblock requests that came
in after the hard freeze, but that should be manageable in a couple of
weeks. kibi just told me on IRC that asking this question now is not
crazy from a d-i point of view. That hopefully means that around the end
of April, also the bookworm d-i should™ be ready for release (kibi, I'm
sure you'll comment on this if I got you wrong or if you want to provide
more details).

So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?

Paul

[Luna Jernberg]

Can the 6th and 20th in May

Post by Paul Gevers
Dear all,

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

I know some people will call me crazy, but can and should we combine
this with finding a release date for bookworm?
From where I'm looking, bookworm is looking pretty good. Obviously
we'll have to follow through on the flurry of unblock requests that came
in after the hard freeze, but that should be manageable in a couple of
weeks. kibi just told me on IRC that asking this question now is not
crazy from a d-i point of view. That hopefully means that around the end
of April, also the bookworm d-i should™ be ready for release (kibi, I'm
sure you'll comment on this if I got you wrong or if you want to provide
more details).
So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?
Paul

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

Post by Paul Gevers
From where I'm looking, bookworm is looking pretty good. Obviously
we'll have to follow through on the flurry of unblock requests that
came in after the hard freeze, but that should be manageable in a
couple of weeks. kibi just told me on IRC that asking this question
now is not crazy from a d-i point of view.

Asking questions is never crazy. :)

Post by Paul Gevers
That hopefully means that around the end of April, also the bookworm
d-i should™ be ready for release (kibi, I'm sure you'll comment on
this if I got you wrong or if you want to provide more details).

At this stage, I'd still like to have at least two releases out. The
first few weeks after the Alpha 2 release were awfully quiet
feedback-wise, that's much better now, and we've got a few fixes and
improvements queued up. There's also a brand new set of shim* packages,
which should definitely end up in some release at some point.

Without having checked with Steve yet, I certainly expect us to be able
to publish at least a release in March and another before say mid-April


Post by Paul Gevers
So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?


 which should be all good for a tentative release in May, we would
still have time for a few extra tweaks with a final debian-installer
upload, should they be needed at that stage (rather than wait until
12.1).


Cheers,

[Steve McIntyre]

From where I'm looking, bookworm is looking pretty good. Obviously we'll have
to follow through on the flurry of unblock requests that came in after the
hard freeze, but that should be manageable in a couple of weeks. kibi just
told me on IRC that asking this question now is not crazy from a d-i point of
view. That hopefully means that around the end of April, also the bookworm
d-i should™ be ready for release (kibi, I'm sure you'll comment on this if I
got you wrong or if you want to provide more details).
So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?

I could do the 6th and 13th, but I'm away on vacation 20th and 27th
(and 3rd June).

[Paul Gevers]

Hi,

With the point release scheduled for April 29th, it's probably good to
have at least one weekend in between, or do people not mind doing two
weekends in a row?

Post by Steve McIntyre

Post by Paul Gevers
So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?

I could do the 6th and 13th, but I'm away on vacation 20th and 27th
(and 3rd June).

If I did the bookkeeping correctly, the missing necessary teams are
press and release team, as I now have:
kibi - 6, 13, 20, 27 d-i
mhy - 6, 13, 20, 27 ftp
Sledge - 6, 13 CD
Luna - 6, 20 CD testing

I can help 6 (probably), 13 and 27, but I don't have the signing key and
I haven't witnessed all details from our side so I'm not comfortable
doing it alone even if I could get my hands on the key.

elbrus - 13, 27 release team

Paul

[Steve McIntyre]

Hey Paul,

Nobody else seems to have replied yet, so... :-)

Hi,
With the point release scheduled for April 29th, it's probably good to have
at least one weekend in between, or do people not mind doing two weekends in
a row?

Definitely *not* two weekends on the run, please!

Post by Steve McIntyre

Post by Paul Gevers
So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?

I could do the 6th and 13th, but I'm away on vacation 20th and 27th
(and 3rd June).

If I did the bookkeeping correctly, the missing necessary teams are press and
kibi - 6, 13, 20, 27 d-i
mhy - 6, 13, 20, 27 ftp
Sledge - 6, 13 CD
Luna - 6, 20 CD testing
I can help 6 (probably), 13 and 27, but I don't have the signing key and I
haven't witnessed all details from our side so I'm not comfortable doing it
alone even if I could get my hands on the key.
elbrus - 13, 27 release team

13th could work. I'll admit I'm a little anxious about the amount of
work needed before release, but tbh that's not a new thing here... :-)

[Paul Gevers]

Hi all,

Post by Steve McIntyre
Nobody else seems to have replied yet, so... :-)

Two weeks have gone by since the last mail in this thread.

Post by Steve McIntyre

If I did the bookkeeping correctly, the missing necessary teams are press and
kibi - 6, 13, 20, 27 d-i
mhy - 6, 13, 20, 27 ftp
Sledge - 6, 13 CD
Luna - 6, 20 CD testing
elbrus - 13, 27 release team

The 13th is in a month from today. We're still missing press and a
cooked solution for the release team.

That means I'm going to have two part in this e-mail:
1) question in public what the options are for me handling the release
day
2) extend with possible dates into June (because finding a date seems to
be a major bottle neck for the bookworm release)

Re 1)
I'll be at the Debian Reunion Hamburg on the 27, so that feels like a
good day (albeit probably missing talks) to do the release if I were to
handle it without the experienced team members. We would still be
missing CD & press too for that day.

For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key, but I
don't see me traveling to Jonathan any time soon (and I don't expect the
reverse to happen either). Are there *established* secure ways of
handing over keys without real-life meetings?

I think that most of the required actions for the Release Team during a
release are documented on the Wiki [1]. I think I can handle those
(albeit some are documented a bit dense). Are there known items missing?

Re 2)
Let's see when people are available for
May 13, 20, 27
June 3, 10, 17, 24

In June, I can do 10 and 24 and if needed I can arrange 3.

Paul

[1]
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/ReleaseCheckList/BookwormCheckList
[While Releasing]

PS: quoting stappers: Silence is hard to parse

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi Paul

Post by Paul Gevers
The 13th is in a month from today. We're still missing press and a

cooked solution for the release team.

Press team is in some slight limbo at the moment, I hope to help fix
that after the DPL election is over, in the mean time, it might be a
good idea not to block on them.

Post by Paul Gevers
I'll be at the Debian Reunion Hamburg on the 27, so that feels like a

good day (albeit probably missing talks) to do the release if I were to
handle it without the experienced team members. We would still be
missing CD & press too for that day.

For the little bit I can do, I'm available to help in Hamburg. Also, if
anyone from the release team wants to the MiniDC in Hamburg, then Debian
funds are available for that.

-Jonathan

[Paul Gevers]

Dear all,

Progress \o/.

For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.

I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to get
the key to me in time.

Which leaves finding a date (and me learning what to do :) ).

We have (if earlier mentioned dates still work for those involved):
May | June

kibi - 13, 20, 27 d-i
mhy - 13, 20, 27 ftp
Sledge - 13 CD
Luna - 20 CD testing
elbrus - 13 27, (3), 10, 24 release team

It seems a tiny bit late for 13 already, but still, would be awesome.
What do we think? If we have somebody from CD to do 27 (yes, I remember
Sledge can't do that one), that would be great as it would be my
preference; I'll have lots of Debian people physically around me. As the
DPL mentioned, we might not want to block on press availability,
although it would be real great if we had them.

Paul

[Adam D. Barratt]

Post by Paul Gevers
Dear all,
Progress \o/.

For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.

I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to
get the key to me in time.

I'm aware this still needs much more input from me :-/ but as a quick
note, for the record it's key*s*. The Release files contain both
codenames and suite designations, so the moves of stable to oldstable
and oldstable to oldoldstable mean that buster and bullseye's Release
files will also need re-signing.

Regards,

Adam

[Luna Jernberg]

Can't really go to Hamburg as it collides with the openSUSE Conference for me

But should be avaible to test some ISOs at home next weekend for 11.7 and

May: 20
and all the Saturdays in June for Debian 12

Post by Adam D. Barratt

Post by Paul Gevers
Dear all,
Progress \o/.

For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.

I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to
get the key to me in time.

I'm aware this still needs much more input from me :-/ but as a quick
note, for the record it's key*s*. The Release files contain both
codenames and suite designations, so the moves of stable to oldstable
and oldstable to oldoldstable mean that buster and bullseye's Release
files will also need re-signing.
Regards,
Adam

[Steve McIntyre]

Post by Paul Gevers
Dear all,
Progress \o/.

For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.

I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to get the key
to me in time.
Which leaves finding a date (and me learning what to do :) ).

OK...

Post by Paul Gevers
May | June

kibi - 13, 20, 27 d-i
mhy - 13, 20, 27 ftp
Sledge - 13 CD
Luna - 20 CD testing
elbrus - 13 27, (3), 10, 24 release team

It seems a tiny bit late for 13 already, but still, would be awesome. What do
we think?

I'm still OK for the 13th.

Post by Paul Gevers
If we have somebody from CD to do 27 (yes, I remember Sledge can't
do that one), that would be great as it would be my preference; I'll have
lots of Debian people physically around me. As the DPL mentioned, we might
not want to block on press availability, although it would be real great if
we had them.

Unfortunately, the other person on the images team who has the
knowledge to do a release (Andy) is also away - we're on the same
vacation! May 27 and June 3 are both out for that reason.

[Cyril Brulebois]

Post by Steve McIntyre

Post by Paul Gevers
May | June

kibi - 13, 20, 27 d-i

I'm also fine with any dates in June, not sure if I failed to answer
properly earlier


Post by Steve McIntyre

Post by Paul Gevers

mhy - 13, 20, 27 ftp
Sledge - 13 CD
Luna - 20 CD testing
elbrus - 13 27, (3), 10, 24 release team

It seems a tiny bit late for 13 already, but still, would be
awesome. What do we think?

I share your feelings regarding the “tiny bit late” part but I suppose
that should be workable. (It feels a little weird to go from “we don't
have a date yet” to “pick the very first one, just 3 weeks away all of
a sudden”, but
)

Post by Steve McIntyre

Post by Paul Gevers
If we have somebody from CD to do 27 (yes, I remember Sledge can't
do that one), that would be great as it would be my preference; I'll
have lots of Debian people physically around me. As the DPL
mentioned, we might not want to block on press availability,
although it would be real great if we had them.

Unfortunately, the other person on the images team who has the
knowledge to do a release (Andy) is also away - we're on the same
vacation! May 27 and June 3 are both out for that reason.

We were thinking about the next d-i release before the end of April, so
maybe I'll know how to spin builds after that
 which would put May 27 on
the table, which would feel a little less “tomorrow-ish” than May 13.

But again, if we go for May 13, I'll make that work



Cheers,

[Adam D. Barratt]

Hi,

Sorry for taking so long to get back to the dates question. I hope to
also have a useful reply to your other mail by the end of this weekend.

Post by Paul Gevers

For me to do the release, I'd need to get my hands on the key.

I'm in contact with Jonathan and we're convinced we'll be able to
get the key to me in time.

As mentioned previously, there'll need to be signatures from each of
the bookworm, bullseye and buster keys on the day.

Post by Paul Gevers
Which leaves finding a date (and me learning what to do :) ).
May | June

kibi - 13, 20, 27 d-i
mhy - 13, 20, 27 ftp
Sledge - 13 CD
Luna - 20 CD testing
elbrus - 13 27, (3), 10, 24 release team

It seems a tiny bit late for 13 already, but still, would be
awesome.

The 13th does seem a bit close now, without having announced. I could
do it if that's the decision, although I will be away the week before
(returning home some time on the 12th). I'm afraid I don't really have
a feel for how "ready" things would be by then.

It looks like I could currently do any Saturday from May 13th onwards,
until the end of June. I have a slight preference for avoiding the
weekend of June 3rd if possible.

One other thing of note is that, unless I've missed some mail, there's
no press / publicity team member confirmed as available, which is
really a requirement.

Regards,

Adam

[Paul Gevers]

Hi all,

TL;DR: ftp & press input for June needed.

Post by Adam D. Barratt
The 13th does seem a bit close now, without having announced.

After some consideration today, and the vibe felt in this discussion,
let's not rush this, so let's skip May 13 (also giving Press some time,
see below).

Post by Adam D. Barratt
One other thing of note is that, unless I've missed some mail, there's
no press / publicity team member confirmed as available, which is
really a requirement.

Jonathan (DPL) mentioned earlier:
"""
Press team is in some slight limbo at the moment, I hope to help fix
that after the DPL election is over, in the mean time, it might be a
good idea not to block on them.
"""
If press is "really a requirement", we'll have to wait until this is
settled.

From the CD side we know that with May 13 out, the rest of May is also
out. So we're looking for a date in June. For June, starting with 10, we
have:
kibi - 10, 17, 24 d-i
Luna - 10, 17, 24 CD testing
elbrus - 10, 24 release team
adsb - 10, 17, 24 release team

Paul

[Steve McIntyre]

Post by Paul Gevers
Hi all,
TL;DR: ftp & press input for June needed.

Post by Adam D. Barratt
The 13th does seem a bit close now, without having announced.

After some consideration today, and the vibe felt in this discussion, let's
not rush this, so let's skip May 13 (also giving Press some time, see below).

Post by Adam D. Barratt
One other thing of note is that, unless I've missed some mail, there's
no press / publicity team member confirmed as available, which is
really a requirement.

"""
Press team is in some slight limbo at the moment, I hope to help fix that
after the DPL election is over, in the mean time, it might be a good idea not
to block on them.
"""
If press is "really a requirement", we'll have to wait until this is settled.
From the CD side we know that with May 13 out, the rest of May is also out.
kibi - 10, 17, 24 d-i
Luna - 10, 17, 24 CD testing
elbrus - 10, 24 release team
adsb - 10, 17, 24 release team

Sledge - 10, 17, 24 images team

[Donald Norwood]

Hi,

On 4/20/23
15:15,
Steve
McIntyre

Post by Steve McIntyre

Post by Paul Gevers
Hi all,
TL;DR: ftp & press input for June needed.

Post by Adam D. Barratt
The 13th does seem a bit close now, without having announced.

After some consideration today, and the vibe felt in this discussion, let's
not rush this, so let's skip May 13 (also giving Press some time, see below).

Post by Adam D. Barratt
One other thing of note is that, unless I've missed some mail, there's
no press / publicity team member confirmed as available, which is
really a requirement.

"""
Press team is in some slight limbo at the moment, I hope to help fix that
after the DPL election is over, in the mean time, it might be a good idea not
to block on them.
"""
If press is "really a requirement", we'll have to wait until this is settled.
From the CD side we know that with May 13 out, the rest of May is also out.
kibi - 10, 17, 24 d-i
Luna - 10, 17, 24 CD testing
elbrus - 10, 24 release team
adsb - 10, 17, 24 release team

Sledge - 10, 17, 24 images team

June 10
and 17 are
workable.
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[Paul Gevers]

Hi,

Any FTP master for 10 or 17 June?

kibi      - 10, 17, 24    d-i
Luna      - 10, 17, 24    CD testing
elbrus    - 10, 17, 24    release team
adsb      - 10, 17, 24    release team
Sledge    - 10, 17, 24    images team
donald - 10, 17 press

Paul

[Ansgar]

Hi,

Post by Paul Gevers
Any FTP master for 10 or 17 June?

So far it looks fine for me.

Post by Paul Gevers
kibi      - 10, 17, 24    d-i
Luna      - 10, 17, 24    CD testing
elbrus    - 10, 17, 24    release team
adsb      - 10, 17, 24    release team
Sledge    - 10, 17, 24    images team
donald    - 10, 17        press

[Paul Gevers]

Hi all,

Let's book June 10 as the bookworm release date. A more formal
announcement will follow.

Paul

[Steve McIntyre]

Post by Paul Gevers
Hi all,
Let's book June 10 as the bookworm release date. A more formal announcement
will follow.

\o/

[Luna Jernberg]

Unsure if i can help with the 11.7 testing this weekend (don't really
have hardware to test on at the moment this week), but pretty sure i
can help out with the 12 testing in June :) and hopefully the 11.8
testing later

Post by Steve McIntyre

Post by Paul Gevers
Hi all,
Let's book June 10 as the bookworm release date. A more formal
announcement
will follow.

\o/
--
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[Laura Arjona Reina]

Hello all

Post by Paul Gevers
Hi,
With the point release scheduled for April 29th, it's probably good to
have at least one weekend in between, or do people not mind doing two
weekends in a row?

Post by Steve McIntyre

Post by Paul Gevers
So, shall we add availability for May too? 6th, 13th, 20th (Ascension
weekend), and 27th (coincides with DebianReunionHamburg)?

I could do the 6th and 13th, but I'm away on vacation 20th and 27th
(and 3rd June).

If I did the bookkeeping correctly, the missing necessary teams are
kibi      - 6, 13, 20, 27   d-i
mhy       - 6, 13, 20, 27   ftp
Sledge    - 6, 13           CD
Luna      - 6,     20       CD testing
I can help 6 (probably), 13 and 27, but I don't have the signing key and
I haven't witnessed all details from our side so I'm not comfortable
doing it alone even if I could get my hands on the key.
elbrus    -    13,     27  release team
Paul

I have no spoons to do/coordinate the work that the release needs in the
publicity side, so better that other express their availability.
If situation changes, I'll write again.

Thanks

[Steve McIntyre]

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
Hi,
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

I think I'm clear for any of:

8th
22nd
29th

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

So 29th April is the earliest viable option; announcements to follow.

[Luna Jernberg]

Will help out the 29th April :)

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire

Post by Jonathan Wiltshire
We're overdue for 11.7 and need it done with a keyring update included
before bookworm can be released. The wheels are turning on the keyring so
how do dates in April look for everybody? Saturdays are 1st (probably too
soon), 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th.

So 29th April is the earliest viable option; announcements to follow.
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